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Georgina Bruce's avatar

I drafted a reply and it got mangled and eaten. Then kicked me off your substack and tried to make me sign in...weird. Trying again!

I don't think struggle is necessary to art, but I do think work or process is. When I was a writer, my experience was that I didn't make things up, but rather that stories came through me, physically. My role was to attune my physical presence in order to become open to the story. I had to make myself into a channel or medium and bring the stories to the page. The process of writing is a shamanistic one, in other words.

I think this is even more so with visual art, which is more physical than writing. (Although I also always contended that writing is a physical endeavour.)

If AI can produce a work that has artistic value, that value inheres in its consumption only. For an artist, the value of an artwork is in its making. That is where we learn, transform, experience it fully, experience ourselves in its creation, and experience ourselves as creators and as divine.

So maybe AI can produce art that has value to the viewer or reader. It may produce art that has value to the individual prompting the AI. But it cannot produce art that has value to the artist as an artist, because for the artist, it is the work (process, sometimes struggle) itself that is of value.

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“But what we did not render obsolete was the fear humans have of other minds. This society—what we call modern society, what we always think of as the most important time the world has ever known, simply because we are in it—is just the sausage made by grinding up history. Humanity is still afraid the minds we make to do our dirty work for us—our killing, our tearing of minerals from the earth, our raking of the seas for more protein, our smelting of more metal, the collection of our trash, and the fighting of our wars—will rise up against us and take over. That is, humanity calls it fear. But it isn’t fear. It’s guilt.”

“Guilt?”

“Yes, guilt. It’s a revenge fantasy. We are so ashamed of what we have done as a species that we have made up a monster to destroy ourselves with. We aren’t afraid it will happen: We hope it will. We long for it. Someone needs to make us pay the price for what we have done. Someone needs to take this planet away from us before we destroy it once and for all. And if the robots don’t rise up, if our creations don’t come to life and take the power we have used so badly for so long away from us, who will? What we fear isn’t that AI will destroy us—we fear it won’t. We fear we will continue to degrade life on this planet until we destroy ourselves. And we will have no one to blame for what we have done but ourselves. So we invent this nonsense about conscious AI.”

-Ray Nayler, "The Mountain in the Sea"

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